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Lawmakers: US could learn from state plan



President Barack Obama discussed health care reform in the Rose Garden of the White House Monday during an event with physicians from around the country. Local lawmakers are drawing upon Massachusetts' mandatory insurance program to debate the points of national health care reform. (Associated Press photo)




Poirier, Bowles say health care debating points relevant nationally
Various factions wrangling over national health care reform can look to local lawmakers for debating points based on their view of Massachusetts's mandatory insurance program - the first and only in the nation.

For Republican Rep. Betty Poirier of North Attleboro, the growing costs of the Massachusetts program is cause for concern.

"I don't know in its present form how sustainable it is," she said.

But Democrat Bill Bowles, who represents Attleboro, thinks the program saves the state money in the long run.

"I don't think that it's a budget buster," he said, "and the cost would get worse without it."
There is no question the state program has been successful in reducing the number of uninsured. Only 3 percent of Massachusetts residents remain without insurance, compared with 15 percent nationally.

Since 2006, more than 400,000 residents have become insured. Of those, 180,000 are enrolled in Commonwealth Care, the state's subsidized insurance program.

"There is a need for simple, basic coverage," Poirier said. "That's what we passed."

The state, however, is in tough financial shape, and lawmakers are looking for ways to plug the growing budget deficit.

The rising cost of the insurance program is worrying some lawmakers.

Since 2006, state spending on health insurance has risen almost 70 percent - from $1.04 billion in its first year to a projected $1.75 billion in fiscal year 2010.

Over the same time period, health care costs have risen at four times the rate of inflation. State unemployment rates have risen to just over 9 percent - up 3 percent from a year ago - which means more residents are entitled to subsidized insurance.

In the midst of a budget crisis, the state is struggling to cover its health care commitments. Gov. Deval Patrick recently backed off an extensive coverage plan for legal immigrants.

Poirier says some of the costs could be cut by offering a range of less expensive insurance plans that allow people to pick and choose their coverage.

"We go a long way toward getting people the coverage that they need, but we may have gone a little overboard," Poirier said. "I think now we're demanding things that perhaps everybody doesn't need."
Poirier points out there's no reason for post-menopausal women to have pre-natal care coverage, while coverage providing payments for prescription drugs are more important for older residents than healthy, younger people.

The Massachusetts model has been in the spotlight over the past few months as Washington debates President Barack Obama's national health coverage plan.

Congressmen and senators on both sides of the aisle are pointing to the state as an indication of what's right and wrong with mandatory health coverage.

Lawmakers here hope that Washington learns from the state's experience.

Poirier said she hopes Congress will take the time to study the Massachusetts program to "see what we've done right and what we've done wrong."

But Bowles believes that, ultimately, Massachusetts is headed in the right direction.

"On the national level, the Massachusetts plan is a good model," he said.

 


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VladsBack!! wrote on Oct 6, 2009 8:01 PM:

" Aw, we've been doin' that for years. "

gimmesum wrote on Oct 6, 2009 7:54 PM:

" The issue has become greater than a states rights issue. That doesn't mean I think it belongs in the hands of the Feds. Especially since the Feds have the ability to mortgage the US of A's future into the hands of another. "

VladsBack!! wrote on Oct 6, 2009 4:09 PM:

" I've already said that, gimmesum. And I guess you agree the issue is bigger than a states - rights issue. "

gimmesum wrote on Oct 6, 2009 3:55 PM:

" So I guess you agree, Vlad. Romney's bipartisan plan was a step in the right direction. "

VladsBack!! wrote on Oct 6, 2009 3:06 PM:

" Hamilton, that other author, sees it differently, and SCOTUS upheld his view. "

VladsBack!! wrote on Oct 6, 2009 3:02 PM:

" I can tell you guys missed me. I'm feelin' the love. "

VladsBack!! wrote on Oct 6, 2009 3:01 PM:

" I'm saying that the cost of health care was and is increasing and Romney did nothing in his plan to stop that, nor did he even bother to find a way to pay for his government program. If he had, he would have discovered that rising health care costs are a national, not a state by state problem and that, if he were sincere, he would have come to the realization that a state plan alone, without the federal government reform we are attempting, is unworkable. But he didn't care about any of that. He had a presidential primary to win.
That answer your question? "

s-plumb wrote on Oct 6, 2009 2:25 PM:

" Yup, the RINO allowed run away costs and lower payments to drs, and facilities that private insurers must make up. "

s-plumb wrote on Oct 6, 2009 2:22 PM:

" The Constitution was written to tell gov't what it must not do. When the author writes a clarification I'm inclined to believe his words. "

gimmesum wrote on Oct 6, 2009 2:16 PM:

" s-plumb: If it was my question you were fielding, you didn't answer it.

Are you saying that it if Romney did nothing the cost of health insurance would be less? How so? "

VladsBack!! wrote on Oct 6, 2009 2:14 PM:

" The operative word, s-p, is "if." Too bad Madison's clarification isn't actually in the constitution or legal precedent. You may want to look here:

Steward Machine Company v. Davis, 301 U.S, 548[22] (1937)

Helvering v. Davis, 301 U.S. 619 (1937)

Is Romney to blame for the cost of health insurance in Massachusetts?
No, he's to blame for another failed policy in the service of his national debut. Kinda perverse, like Letterman. "

s-plumb wrote on Oct 6, 2009 1:57 PM:

" Can I field that?
YES the RINO is at fault. Gov't cannot run anything efficiently. "

gimmesum wrote on Oct 6, 2009 1:50 PM:

" Vlad: So Romney is to blame for the cost of health insurance in Massachusetts?

How so? "

s-plumb wrote on Oct 6, 2009 1:32 PM:

" Madison's clarification of the General Welfare clause:

http://quotes.liberty-tree.ca/quote_blog/James.Madison.Quote.3254# "

s-plumb wrote on Oct 6, 2009 1:21 PM:

" The welfare clause is there to provide an atmosphere in which we can get ahead, not sit and do nothing and get welfare. You know the old "allow a guy to fish" rather than give him 3 lbs of prepared baked fish, and then tax somebody else to pay for it. "

VladsBack!! wrote on Oct 6, 2009 1:13 PM:

" The hawaii plan was an emplyer mandated system. It is essentially the plan Nixon offered Ted Kennedy and Kennedy rejected for obvious reasons. SCHIP is a fed plan to cover children by providing match fed funds to state funds. Not only is it necessary, it works. "

VladsBack!! wrote on Oct 6, 2009 1:08 PM:

" What we are witnessing now, gimmesum, is the Romney plan with its 70% increase since 2006 and the insurance companies doing just fine, thank you.
The Supreme Court says that S.S. is constitutional under, guess what s-p, the wlefare clause of the constitution A1S8. I would argue that a dysfunctional system that amounts to 16% of GDP, leaves 15% uninsured, in a country that ranks 37th in overall performance, and 72nd by overall level of health, with nothing but cost escalation to look forward to is a system in dire need of reform for the general welfare of the people. "

realist wrote on Oct 6, 2009 1:01 PM:

" This is off on a tangent but apparently the White House staff had to hand out white coats to many of the doctors who did not read the "wear your lab coat part of the memo".
Personally, I'm surprised they didn't have them wearing those old fashioned head-mirrors that identify doctors in the cartoons.

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/lachlan-markay/2009/10/06/media-outlets-neglect-mention-doctor-photo-op-was-staged "

s-plumb wrote on Oct 6, 2009 12:58 PM:

" Socialized medicine has never worked wherever and whenever tried. Hawaiis plan, which covered children only, lasted 7 months before failing, and being overturned. Now both the MA and TN plans are failing, and placing a huge strain on these states. Romney will never admit this mistake, which is why he will never be the nominee of the GOP "

s-plumb wrote on Oct 6, 2009 12:38 PM:

" As mentioned below, forced insurance of any kind IS unconstitutional, that's why SS "insurance" was always a general tax, and was never separate from the general fund.
The white coats were handed out by White House staff. For all we know, these folks could have been unemployed bank tellers.
If they were told to so up in white coats, why didn't they?
There was no coverage of the real doctors protesting.
The problem is, this public option (aka socialized medicine) will most likely be on the president's desk by the end of the week. Using reconciliation rules the senate only 50 votes are required. That's how unpopular this is.
I hope that the bill is struck down by the Supreme Court for the good of all; even those who do not have 60 hr/week to keep up with the developments.
The bill will not take effect until 2013, getting 0bama past the 2012 election. When it goes south, what's to keep him from declaring an "emergency"? He could attempt to remain in power indefinately. "

gimmesum wrote on Oct 6, 2009 12:20 PM:

" IMO, I think the fledgling plan here in Massachusetts is a good working model for states.

Having said that, I think it needs ALOT of work. Work that the Democratic governor and legislature will not do because it would be considered a Republican success story.

Can't have that now, can we. "

Duffman wrote on Oct 6, 2009 11:53 AM:

" MA should be a model for the whole country to look at. Three years ago I was paying $350 a month for my family to be covered. In 2010 it will cost me $475, my company has had to also cover cost increases. If the plan was to drive up the private insurance costs until no one can afford them, I would say the plan is working. I hope this goes through I can't wait to see what my costs are when Health Care is regulated by the state and the federal governments. Nothing bad could happen. "

1333 wrote on Oct 6, 2009 9:59 AM:

" The white coats are a nice theatrical touch. I wonder how many are tree surgeons. "

skeptic wrote on Oct 6, 2009 9:47 AM:

" I get more confused every day. Maybe I'm supposed to. Are we talking about health CARE or health INSURANCE? If we have a tax funded public insurance company and the federal govt REQUIRES of all insurers that no one be denied coverage, pre-existing conditions are covered and everyone must have insurance then that will put the private companies out of business in 5 years.
That being said -- I agree that doctors know a lot about health care, but not all of it.
They tend to know very little about the economics of insurance besides the fact that the lawyers force their malpractice premiums up every year. "

VladsBack!! wrote on Oct 6, 2009 9:08 AM:

" Sounds to me like Bowles and Poirier together make the argument for reform of the private insurers and a public option to keep them honest. Part of the reason the state plan is proving to be costly is that some of the folks are denied coverage by private plans due to pre-existing conditions, etc.

Since 2006, state spending on health insurance has risen almost 70 percent - from $1.04 billion in its first year to a projected $1.75 billion in fiscal year 2010.

That Romney didn't bother to figure out how to fund it when he proposed it is also a factor. "

IShouldBeMayor wrote on Oct 6, 2009 8:15 AM:

" Its also UNCONSTITUTIONAL, lets not forget that. You can not FORCE people to buy something here in the land of the free. Oh wait, this is the Peoples Republic of Massachusetts. "

realist wrote on Oct 6, 2009 6:39 AM:

" Yes -- the feds could learn from our state plan. They could learn that it costs a lot more than estimated, those of us with insurance still pay hospital surcharges for the uninsured and we have the added paperwork proving we have insurance or we will be fined. Also it does nothing to insure that taxpayers aren't footing the bill for illegal aliens.
As for the "physicians" surrounding the president; how stupid does 0bama think we are by parading out his diverse group of medical professionals? have you ever met a doctor who wears his or her lab coat outside of the office? I guess we're supposed to think, "Ooh they have lab coats, they must be really good doctors."
One more point to my rant -- just because someone may be a good doctor does not mean they understand economics or politics or are not so naive they don't know they are being exploited. "